Hiding From Window Washers, Riding in Rental Cars, Lowering Toilet Lids, and More

Nick: Hey, everybody. It's Nick Leighton.

Leah: And it's Leah Bonnema.

Nick: And we had so many great questions from you all in the wilderness ...

Leah: [howls]

Nick: ... that we have a bonus episode. So here we go. Our first question is quote, "What should we do when our windows are being washed? I live in a high-rise building and work in one too, and I never know how to react during window washing. Should I wave? Ignore them? Hide in another room? I want to be kind, but I also don't want to distract or annoy them while they're doing a dangerous job."

Leah: This is such a Leah question.

Nick: [laughs] This is such a Leah question. Okay, so how would you handle this?

Leah: So how I would handle it is, you know, when they first come up, your eyes make contact.

Nick: Mm-hmm.

Leah: I would do—when they're—when they're changing their location as opposed to when they're washing, when they're moving.

Nick: So they're passing your window.

Leah: Yeah.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: I would do like a, "Hey!" smiley face. You know what I mean?

Nick: Okay. All right.

Leah: Like a nice welcome. "I see you, you see me."

Nick: Okay.

Leah: Hello.

Nick: All right.

Leah: And then I would go about my business and let them go about their business.

Nick: Yeah. I don't think we need to hide. I don't think we need to hide.

Leah: No.

Nick: But I think it is nice to acknowledge their existence.

Leah: Let's acknowledge and then let them—like, let's not dance in front of the window while they're ...

Nick: Right. I don't think we want to give them a show.

Leah: We don't want to give them a show. They are—it's dangerous. They've probably got a lot of windows to get through. You know what I mean? But we do a "Hey!"

Nick: Yeah, I think that's the right vibe. I mean, I was thinking about this, and I was thinking I would treat it like they were actually doing work in your home. So if you had an electrician over changing a light switch for you, like, how would you act around this person? So, like, you would greet them, and then you would let them do their thing. And I would be clothed as this is happening. And so I feel like we also want to make sure we're, like, clothed when your windows are being washed. No?

Leah: I mean, what a tip. You know what I'm saying? [laughs]

Nick: [laughs] Okay. You agree though, right? We're clothed.

Leah: I mean, if you're not clothed and it happens, life goes on.

Nick: Yes. I mean, if you were caught off guard. Right. But I do think there are probably plenty of window washers who have encountered situations where they were deliberately shown things.

Leah: You think so?

Nick: I know. What?

Leah: No! No!

Nick: Hello, Ripley? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that may have happened. May have happened.

Leah: I mean, we don't want to jump people, you know?

Nick: Yes. So I think it would be nice to sort of, you know, be the way you would be if you had a plumber or electrician.

Leah: Yes. Let's not harass people.

Nick: Let's not harass people. Yes. I think we also want to make sure our windows are closed, because I think a window that is open can sometimes actually make it harder for them or actually could, like, hit their ropes in some way. So we want to make sure our windows are closed, and I think we also want to make sure we don't open our windows until they're totally clear. So just because they may be below you or above you doesn't mean, like, they're done in your line. So I think we want to be respectful and mindful of, like, oh, where are they on the building?

Leah: I guess there are some—I'm still stuck back on what you said. I guess there are some people that are exhibitionists.

Nick: Absolutely. Oh, yes. A hundred percent yes. No, this is the world we live in, of course.

Leah: Now we gotta find a window washer. I want tales from the window washing.

Nick: Oh, I'm sure the things they've seen? Oh, the things they've seen! Yeah.

Leah: We must!

Nick: Okay. Yeah. I mean, any listeners who are window washers, let us know. What have you seen?

Leah: Please!

Nick: That also—that we can talk about on our show. [laughs]

Leah: Oh, we can just do it on the Patreon.

Nick: Oh, there we go. Yeah, that'll be a Patreon bonus. Yes. Wolves After Dark.

Leah: That way if it slips into a PG ...

Nick: Yeah. No, I'm sure the things that have been observed are definitely not PG. So our next question is quote, "I just received a slightly upsetting series of texts from an old friend that I haven't spoken to for 15 years. She initially texted that she was updating her Christmas list addresses, and if she could get my most recent address. Okay, fine. But then she followed up to ask for many of our mutual old friends' addresses. Was this rude? And am I under an obligation to give these to her when I know she's also in contact with many of these friends on Facebook? It just felt like a cheap way to get her to-do list done. I'm not inclined to give out anyone's personal information without asking, and I don't really feel like this is my job. Thoughts?"

Leah: Do you want me to go ahead?

Nick: Please.

Leah: I don't give out other people's personal information ever.

Nick: No.

Leah: Even if it's to, like, my closest friends.

Nick: And I hate being asked. I really don't—don't put me in that position. Don't ask.

Leah: Don't put people in that position. It's rude!

Nick: No. No. The way to do it is if you really need that information and you know someone has it, I'd be like, "Hey, Leah, would you mind passing along my email address to Lisa, asking her to send me her address?" And you can be like, "Sure." And then you have passed along the email address, and then what happens there is out of your hands. And if Lisa wants to send it, then she will. If she doesn't want to send it, then she'll ignore it. And it gives everybody sort of a nice polite out.

Leah: Yes, that's the way to do it. And also, like, it's not appropriate for people to ask you to give out other people's information.

Nick: Definitely not.

Leah: That person could show up at people's houses and be a burglar. I don't know. I'm not giving out people's information.

Nick: Even if not. Like, parents are notorious for this. I think all of us have had our email addresses given to other people by our parents. I think this is a very universal thing that happens. And even though it's, like, totally fine and it's like, I'm pretty sure, like, this old family friend is not gonna rob me, it's still—it always hits me the wrong way. It's just like, ugh, why? Why did you give out my email address? Even if it's perfectly fine, there does feel like some violation there.

Leah: And if somebody takes it personally that you're like, "Hey, I don't give out other people's information. I'd feel more comfortable if you just ask them." If they take that personally, that's on them.

Nick: Yeah, I think that's a fine boundary. That's a boundary we have all decided we will set as a society. I think we all agree on this. I think we all agree on this.

Leah: Or I'll text. If it's something I think my friend would be interested in, I'll text my friend and go, "Hey, this person's asking for your address."

Nick: Sure.

Leah: "What do you want me to do?" But that—that is not this.

Nick: Well, that would be you texting 50 people.

Leah: Yeah, that's not this. I'm just saying if in, like, a one on one, someone's like, "Hey," like, for a job, I'll say that. Say, my friend, "Hey, do you—do you think this person wants to do this?" I say, "Let me ask." And I text them. I go, "Hey, this person's asking about this. Can I give them your info?"

Nick: Oh. See, now the "let me ask" part I don't love, because now I have to loop back with you, and if Lisa's like, "No, don't give out my address," now I have to go back to you and be like, "No. She said no." And like, I don't—I don't want to be in the middle of that.

Leah: I don't think when I said "Let me ask," I meant I would say it out loud.

Nick: Okay. Okay, good. Yeah.

Leah: Let me go back.

Nick: Okay. [laughs]

Leah: I'll text them on the side.

Nick: Yes, fair enough. And then the part of like, oh, can you do all of this work for me? I think this is also a problem here.

Leah: It's rude. Also, you haven't spoken to this person for 15 years.

Nick: Oh, that's material, too. Yeah, yeah.

Leah: That's over a decade. That is a long time. And they're like, "Hey, can you give me ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba addresses?" No!

Nick: But also, she says that they're in touch with these people on Facebook, so they're like, you can also just message these people.

Leah: I'm gonna assume at that point that they have messaged these people and those people have not messaged them back. And now you're circumventing by going through me.

Nick: Oh, interesting. So I think if we needed to have a line, the line would be, "I prefer to not give out people's info, but definitely reach out to everybody directly. I'm sure they'd love to hear from you."

Leah: That is gorgeous.

Nick: Right? I think that's the vibe.

Leah: Yeah, that's totally it.

Nick: And another thought that is a little adjacent, but maybe is an explanation here, is that very often people want cards in the mail to be a surprise. Like, this comes up with, like, thank-you notes a lot, which is like, "Oh, I didn't have their address, so I didn't send them a thank-you note, and I didn't want to ask them." And I wonder if, like, oh, I want these Christmas cards to all these people to be a surprise from me after 15 years. And if I reach out to everybody individually, they'll know it's coming. And I wonder if there's a little of that flavor happening. Is that being too charitable?

Leah: I mean, that's charitable.

Nick: [laughs] Okay.

Leah: But I still don't give them the addresses.

Nick: Yeah, we still don't do it, but I wonder if that's where that's coming from? And it's not that I'm being lazy. It's just I wanted these things to be a surprise. And I think if we can dispel this idea that things in the mail always have to be surprises, that would actually make a lot of these problems go away. So if there is any of that element here then, like, let's just dispel that. Just ask people for their addresses directly if you want their address.

Leah: Because, like, physical addresses are where people live.

Nick: Yes.

Leah: Like, you give out an email ...

Nick: Right.

Leah: That person can ignore it.

Nick: Right.

Leah: This might be a person who likes to show up at people's doors and be like, "Are you busy right now?" We don't know. We can't put our friends through that. And then you're like, "How'd you get my address?" And you're like, "Leah gave it to me."

Nick: Yeah. Oh, that's—that is definitely not a text message you want to get.

Leah: Yeah.

Nick: Which is like, "Hey, you gave my address to this person?"

Leah: "They're here now, and they're in my bathroom."

Nick: "They say hi." [laughs] Nightmare. So our next question is quote, "Recently I had a significant falling out with my uncle. Reconciliation is highly unlikely, and I've not discussed this issue with my extended family, and I don't expect my uncle has either. I'm planning to host a family gathering soon, and I'm creating the guest list. I have no desire to include my uncle or invite him into my home. I do have a friendly, but not especially close relationship with my cousins, my uncle's children. I would normally invite my cousins to this gathering, but it feels awkward to invite them and not their father. I don't casually chat with these cousins, so reaching out to discuss the issue feels like there would be a lot of energy around it, and I don't want to come across like I'm trying to create drama or get people to pick sides. How would you handle this?"

Leah: I was excited to hear Nick's idea on this one.

Nick: Oh, yeah? Okay. I have some ideas. So there are several etiquette themes here, and we've talked about them before, but I think they're good to mention again. So the first is that when you host an event, you are the host, and that means you get to pick the time, the place, the guest list. It's up to you. You are in charge of these things. You shall not be questioned.

Nick: And so as host of this event, letter-writer, you get to pick the guest list. And if you don't want to invite your uncle, no problem. Like, that's fine. That is your right as a host. Another etiquette theme at play here is that etiquette decisions have etiquette consequences. And so make whatever etiquette decision you want, just know that there's gonna be an etiquette consequence, and you just want to make an informed decision about that. So, like, if you're gonna have a wedding and you decide you're not gonna invite your best friend of 40 years to your wedding? Yeah, there's probably gonna be an etiquette consequence. So you just know, yeah, there's gonna be some fallout there.

Nick: So you can not invite your uncle. And so yeah, he's probably gonna be annoyed by that or upset or maybe hurt by that. Or he may be like, "Oh, yeah. I totally get it. Yeah, of course she's not gonna invite me." So there may be a consequence, and just be prepared for that. Maybe your uncle won't invite you to their home, and you're probably cool with that. So I feel like as long as you're cool with the consequences, then make the etiquette decision to not invite the uncle. And so I would say invite the cousins if they're adults and they don't require the uncle to drive them. They're not, like, kids or something. But if these are adult people, like, invite them. And I don't think we have to have any commentary around it. Be like, "Hey, I'm having a barbecue. Come on down. Here are the details." And I'm sure they'll mention it to their father, and if they wanted to ask you why their father wasn't invited, I guess they could. Although he knows. Like, he knows. But if they do ask and you have to say something, I think you would just be like, "Your father and I, we have had some personal disagreements, and I just thought it would be best to not invite him this time. But I hope you'll come." And just leave it at that. I don't think we have to actually explain.

Leah: Hearing you say it, that sounds like the best idea.

Nick: Yeah. I mean, is that not what you would do?

Leah: My initial thought was I think we're clearly not inviting the uncle. She doesn't feel bad about it. That decision has been made.

Nick: Definitely.

Leah: But I got the idea that she doesn't really hang out with the cousins that much.

Nick: No. No, there's not really a close relationship. But it does sound like this is some sort of regular family, like, oh, annual picnic kind of idea, maybe?

Leah: So my initial thought was, don't invite him. But when you say that, it makes sense that you would be like, "Oh, yeah—" if they bring it up, be like, "Oh, we had a falling out but you're more than welcome."

Nick: Yeah, I kind of like that. Because, like, should you be responsible for the sins of the father? Is that what we want to be doing? Not necessarily.

Leah: I think that she is worried about them feeling awkward.

Nick: Well, then they can decline the invitation.

Leah: That's true.

Nick: Yeah. I mean, this is not a subpoena. So if they feel like it's weird, then yeah, they don't have to go. And that's fine. And as host, you should not interrogate them as to why and be like, "Oh, why aren't you coming?" Like, no. Just "Oh, so sorry you can't make it. Hope you can come next time."

Leah: The other option is we just don't invite extended family.

Nick: Yes. You could change the nature of the event and, you know, anybody in that tier maybe doesn't get invited. Sure. I mean, I think you have to decide as host, what do you want? What is the party you want to have? And do you want these people there or not? And if they do show up, are they gonna be good guests?

Leah: Yeah, that's what I can't get a read on.

Nick: Yeah. I get the sense that there's sort of an obligation to invite the cousins because normally they would be invited to this type of gathering, so our letter-writer says. So it would be expected that they would be invited based on whatever this event is. So I guess because we don't have much of a relationship with them at all, we're kind of neutral on it. And so I guess with that neutrality, then I guess, which side would you err on?

Leah: Hmm. I just wonder, is it really neutral or do we not like them?

Nick: Um, I feel like it's neutral to negative.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: Yeah, it's probably leaning maybe a little more negative. Yeah.

Leah: What if they write back and they say, "Can my dad come?"

Nick: I think you would have to then say, "Unfortunately, it won't be possible. He knows why."

Leah: "He knows why."

Nick: [laughs] You don't add that part.

Leah: No. You say, "He knows what he did."

Nick: Yeah. But I think they know, though. I mean, of course they know. I mean, family drama like this? Of course everybody's talking.

Leah: I think what Nick said is the most—what is this word?

Nick: Leah—Leah's gesturing out into the crowd.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: She is sort of passing around a basket of bread. What is this gesture?

Leah: It's a very easy word. My brain is just not firing on all cylinders today. You know, it's the most—I just redid the gesture again.

Nick: Gracious?

Leah: That's not the ...

Nick: Magnanimous?

Leah: That's not the word I was going for. That's not it either.

Nick: I mean, how long do we want to play this game?

Leah: I mean, how long do you have?

Nick: Just say "Nick is right. Whatever Nick just said was correct. Do what Nick said."

Leah: Well, I'm not gonna say that exactly, but ... [laughs]

Nick: [laughs] Someday you will.

Leah: I'm gonna say I feel like that covers the most appropriate boundaries.

Nick: Yeah. Yeah. I think it's the—it's the most etiquette approved response here.

Leah: But also, you want to cut him off? Cut him off. [laughs] What's happening to me? I would like to chart my course from the beginning of this podcast.

Nick: Plotted on a graph of how intense you are?

Leah: Plot on a graph. Yeah, on how I slowly become more like, "Shut him out. Cut him off. What are we doing?"

Nick: Yeah. No, your need to please has definitely declined as time has gone on. [laughs] Yeah. Yeah. No, definitely, your tolerance for things has definitely diminished. Yes. I mean, you're the woman now who's like, "I don't do this," and you just shut it down.

Leah: But that's actually a polite response. I'm not arguing. I'm not saying anything rude. I'm just saying I'm not getting involved in this.

Nick: No, no. You have become a more polite person, I think, as time has gone on, you just ...

Leah: No, I'm very—I've always been very polite.

Nick: Well, you're even more so.

Leah: I've become more like, should we say direct?

Nick: Yes, you've definitely become significantly more direct as time has gone on. But hey, I'm here for it.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: Absolutely. So have we covered it with the uncle? We have.

Leah: I think I also am like, "Why would you not want a really small party? I love small parties. In fact, make it you and your dogs."

Nick: Yeah. Oh, no. A smaller guest list. Yeah, I'll take that too.

Leah: But I think what Nick said is—just for Nick.

Nick: Mmm?

Leah: Happy early Christmas.

Nick: Oh?

Leah: Nick was right.

Nick: Oh, my gosh! Where's my little heart? Okay, so our next question is quote, "Occasionally I rent a car from a company that provides a pickup and drop off service for customers. They send someone to pick me up from my house and take me to the rental office. And then when I return my car a few days later, they give me a ride back home. The people who drive me are not cab or rideshare drivers, but clerks who otherwise work behind the counter at the rental agency. In this instance, should I sit up front or in the back? And what if they're giving a ride to another customer at the same time? Should we both sit in the back, or should one of us sit in the back and one of us in the front?"

Leah: This is one where I just love to just ask. Open the door, stick your head in. "Hey, where should I sit?"

Nick: Yeah. I mean, I think actually that's not bad. I think that's not bad at all. I mean, my first instinct is that I think I would sit in the front because this person is, like, performing a courtesy service.

Leah: Yeah.

Nick: It's not like a taxi driver or an Uber driver. And so I do think there's a different relationship between you and the driver, and so I think it would feel better and more comfortable if you sat in the front.

Leah: Well, I would definitely open the front passenger door to say, "Hey, where should I sit?"

Nick: Yeah, I guess asking is fine.

Leah: And then also, if there's somebody already in the back, you want to know, do you want me to sit with them, or do you want to sit in the front so you're not alone?

Nick: Well, I guess if you're the second passenger and somebody's in the back already, then I would probably sit in the back, because I think the rules have been established that we sit in the back. Right?

Leah: Unless they look like a creeper and then I'm sitting in the front.

Nick: Although if they look like a creeper, do I want to sit in front and have my back to them and cannot observe what they're up to?

Leah: Oh, wow. That's deep.

Nick: Right?

Leah: Deep.

Nick: So that's—that's awkward. But okay, if there is more than one passenger, if I'm first in the car, I've asked. "Oh, where do you want me to sit?" And so I've gotten instructions. And then if the car pulls up and there's already somebody in there, and my choices are there's an open front seat or an open back seat, I mean, we can still ask. Although I'm asking for permission from the driver. We don't care what the other passenger feels, right?

Leah: Correct.

Nick: Right. And so, "Hey, do you want me to sit in the front of the back?" And then I guess we would take instructions. But then the default setting, though, if there wasn't a conversation, would be to sit in the back. Because we've established, like, oh, this is chauffeur rules.

Leah: I'm just gonna ask.

Nick: Okay, you're gonna ask regardless.

Leah: I'm gonna ask regardless, because then if I just got into the back, then the whole time, I'd be like, "I wonder if they wanted someone to just sit in front." I'd be thinking that the whole trip.

Nick: And does the length of the journey matter? I think it does. Because if this was like, a serious, like, if this was an hour long thing, it feels like front would be better, right? Little conversation?

Leah: I don't know. Or unless you're a person who hates conversations, then back would be better.

Nick: Oh, I mean, this is my nightmare. I'm not renting cars for this reason. Yeah, I don't want any of this. Right. Yes. Silent ride, please.

Leah: I think we bypass all of it by just asking.

Nick: Leah's correct. Yes. Happy early Christmas, Leah. You are correct.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: Okay. All right. So that's the answer.

Leah: But I'm saying if you ask, then you don't have to get into the seat and then worry about it the whole time.

Nick: So our next question actually is multiple questions that came in from different people around the world, all on the exact same topic. So I don't know what's in the water, but this is on people's minds. So I'm just gonna read one of the questions because it encapsulates what's happening here, which is quote, "What's the proper public bathroom etiquette? Should I leave the lid up after each use so the next person doesn't have to touch the lid?"

Leah: I feel like so many of the bathrooms I'm using in public places don't even have lids.

Nick: That was my first thought, is like, where are all these lids? Right?

Leah: [laughs] Where are all these lids? Well, we know from the recent episode that if you are at Burning Man, you have to put the lid down because the sand will come in. So if we are in an environment where there's sand blowing into your bathroom ...

Nick: Fair enough. Yes.

Leah: I say yes for the sand.

Nick: But it's an interesting question because I guess the idea is, like, do we want to put the lid down after use? Which is what we would do in a private bathroom. Like, if you're at a friend's house and you use the restroom, you should put the lid down after use. Like, that should be sort of the default setting, right?

Leah: I guess.

Nick: I mean, is that not what we're doing? I feel like that's what we're doing.

Leah: I feel like lids are gross.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: I'm just trying to think of what I'm doing. I guess I always put the lid down in, like, people's homes, but in public restrooms, I don't want to touch it. I don't want the next person to have to touch it.

Nick: Yeah, I feel like I would leave it open.

Leah: And I understand the idea that, like, when you flush, you don't want, like, particles to fly out.

Nick: Yes, the aerosolized whateverness.

Leah: But there are partitions in the bathroom.

Nick: Sure.

Leah: And it's already gross anyway. [laughs]

Nick: Yeah. I mean, I guess can we just live with the fiction? I mean, that's how we have to get through life, right? In a public bathroom, we just have to, like, accept a certain fiction and just appreciate that our vision is not good enough to see microscopic things.

Leah: I honestly—that might be on my grateful list that I add every morning now. Now that you brought it up.

Nick: [laughs]

Leah: Thank goodness that I cannot see ...

Nick: I cannot see microbes. Right.

Leah: I wouldn't leave—I mean, I wouldn't even want to be near—I wouldn't be anywhere.

Nick: No. I mean, if we walked around life with black lights. I mean, you would never. You would never leave the house. Or your house is probably terrifying. Right. So we do need a certain picture, but yes, the idea of the lid down, yeah. No, I think we leave it up. I feel like I'm gonna get letters, though.

Leah: Oh, we're gonna ...

Nick: Is there a reason why we put it down? Is it this aerosol thing?

Leah: Yes. And I will say that sometimes, like, a woman's bathroom, when you flush it—I don't know if this happens in the men's bathroom. I'd be interested to know if you have completely different—if your, you know, extra income and your status as men gives you better flushes. But ...

Nick: Oh, the patriarchy is great when it comes to bathrooms. Yeah, there's definitely a shorter line in our restrooms.

Leah: Oh, there's definitely a shorter line. Potty rights. But, you know, sometimes when you flush, because it's like such a strong flush, water does get on the seat.

Nick: Oh, it, like, splashes up over the top like a fountain?

Leah: Like a fountain. And I ...

Nick: Oh, what are these Bellagio toilets you're using?

Leah: I don't know if it's just in the women's room, because they're like, "Hey, we don't know what you're doing in there. We're just gonna do a flush."

Nick: They dial up the water pressure for you? [laughs]

Leah: They dial up the water pressure. I do this, and I don't think that this is necessary, but I always, if it is a flusher that does that, I give the seat a little wipe, and I just throw it into the dispenser.

Nick: Oh, okay. That's courteous. I mean, I think men typically do not touch lids at all. I mean, I feel like many married couples acknowledge that the toilet seat is still an issue 40 years in a marriage. So I think men just aren't hardwired to relocate toilet seats whatsoever. So I think the idea of the lids going down in a men's room, I feel like that's—that has never come up as a question. Like, if there's a lid, it's not getting touched.

Leah: I'm not touching a lid in a public restroom.

Nick: Okay. So that's just what it is. We're not touching the lid.

Leah: But I will dab a seat if the flush—and it's not like a horror story in there. You know, it's not like ...

Nick: Right.

Leah: I'm just dabbing the water off if it's a crazy flush, because I don't want the next person to come in and accidentally sit in water, which I don't have to do, but I'll do it.

Nick: Now I've actually never touched a toilet seat directly because I'm always using some barrier. I'm gonna use a little tissue. I'm gonna use some toilet paper to get a grip on that thing. So, like, is it such a big deal to put the lid down or raise it up? Because we're gonna have some tissue protecting us.

Leah: Yeah. I'm not touching anything without a barrier in there, but ...

Nick: Right. Oh, but even with the barrier, you wouldn't touch the lid. I mean, like, we're not touching—we're not gonna attempt it at all.

Leah: I'm not getting involved.

Nick: I got it. Okay. [laughs] Yeah, I feel like that's true.

Leah: I'm actually pretending it's not there.

Nick: I mean, the worst thing ever is when you have the protective barrier of the toilet paper and you are touching the seat lid to relocate it and it's a little wet and you didn't realize it.

Leah: Oh, yes! Nightmare! You just have to immediately burn your fingers off.

Nick: You burn your hands. Yes, exactly. So there's that. Okay, so it feels like this question, which is clearly in the zeitgeist, because we're getting multiple inquiries on this topic, I think we leave the lid up in a public restroom, and that's fine.

Leah: And then if we're at, like, a friend's house party ...

Nick: Put it down.

Leah: Put it down. And then if we're at Burning Man or any environment, I would say an outdoor restroom—like, one of my favorite hikes and whenever I go to visit my parents is out to this lovely pond and there is actually a Porta Potty.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: In the middle of the woods. I would always put it down there because you don't want animals.

Nick: Oh! Oh, gosh. Yeah. No. Oh, yeah, Definitely. Yeah, let's not have animals fall into the Porta Potty.

Leah: Or hide in there and wait for you. Whoo! [laughs]

Nick: [laughs] That's the nightmare. That's the nightmare. Okay. Thank you for putting that in my head. Oh, gonna sleep real nice tonight. I'm never gonna use a Porta Potty ever again.

Leah: Well, don't use it if it was outside and the lid wasn't down.

Nick: And check for animal sounds first.

Leah: "Hey, you guys in there?" What if they need your help getting out though, you know?

Nick: Wow. Okay. Wow, you really give me a lot to think about.

Leah: Well, I don't know what you're thinking about when you lay awake at night, but ...

Nick: Well, now it's raccoons in my toilet, so thank you.

Leah: You're welcome.

Nick: Okay. Well, you out there. Thanks for joining us as well. And if you have questions for us, let us know. Let us know on our website, WereYouRaisedByWolves.com. Or you can send us a text message or leave us a voicemail: (267)CALL-RBW. And we'll see you next time.

Leah: Bye!

Nick: Bye!