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Gifting Frozen Vegetables, Enjoying Public Restrooms, Obsessing Over Necklaces, and More
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Dec. 9, 2024

Gifting Frozen Vegetables, Enjoying Public Restrooms, Obsessing Over Necklaces, and More

Etiquette, manners, and beyond! In this episode, Nick and Leah answer listener questions about gifting frozen vegetables, enjoying public restrooms, obsessing over necklaces, and much more.

Etiquette, manners, and beyond! In this episode, Nick and Leah answer listener questions about gifting frozen vegetables, enjoying public restrooms, obsessing over necklaces, and much more. Please follow us! (We'd send you a hand-written thank you note if we could.)

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QUESTIONS FROM THE WILDERNESS:

  • Our neighbors gave us a bag of frozen vegetables as a holiday present...how should we respond?
  • What's the proper etiquette when boarding a plane and you missed the call for your zone or group?
  • What do you do if you're excluded from a card game that you originally organized?
  • How to respond when someone says to "enjoy" the bathroom?
  • Etiquette Crime Report: Asking for a necklace back

 

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Episode 249

 

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Nick: Hey, everybody. It's Nick Leighton.

Leah: And it's Leah Bonnema.

Nick: And we had so many great questions from you all in the wilderness ...

Leah: [howls]

Nick: ... that we have a bonus episode. So here we go. Our first question is quote, "Over the past year, we've become friendly with our neighbors. Our dogs play together every morning, and on one occasion, their dog stayed with us while they were away for the weekend. They've just come by on their way out of town and wished us a Merry Christmas, and they gave us a giant bag of frozen mixed vegetables. My husband and I looked blank for a minute and then thanked them, not knowing whether we were supposed to laugh or accept them as an honest to goodness present. They know I cook homemade food for our senior dog, including chicken breast, rice, and vegetables, but they also know that we are vegetarian. We don't know whether they meant these frozen vegetables as a gift for our dog, or if it was a humorous way of acknowledging that we're vegetarian. I think we should tell them how much we all, including our dog, enjoyed them, but my husband thinks we should not mention it and just stay perplexed. Thoughts?"

Leah: I had an immediate thought.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: My immediate thought would be I would read that as they are giving a gift to the dog because they know you feed them chicken and rice and vegetables and your dogs are friends.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: And so I would send them a thank-you note from the dog. And then, you know, when our dogs send thank you notes, as dogs do, they sign it with their paw, you know, which is us—obviously, it's us drawing a paw. I'm not dipping them in ink.

Nick: Oh, obviously.

Leah: I think some people may have actual paw print stamps. They may have upped their game past me, but I at this point, I'm still drawing a paw.

Nick: I see.

Leah: But that's how I would have taken it. That way you've said thank you, your pup is saying thank you for the vegetables, and so you don't have to think about "Should I be saying thank you?" And then you're assuming that they're not making a commentary on your being a vegetarian with a bag of frozen vegetables.

Nick: Oh. So okay. I mean, okay, that's one path. But what if this was a gift for you and didn't have anything to do with your dog, and now your dog has sent a thank-you note. Like, that's a little weird.

Leah: It's not weird because they have dogs. They know. Dog owners know we love our dogs. My dog eats vegetables. You give me vegetables, and I think it's for my dog.

Nick: But what if these weren't intended for your dog? I wanted to give you vegetables, you human.

Leah: You wanted to give me a bag of frozen vegetables?

Nick: [laughs] Yes! Yes!

Leah: I would have been like, "Oh, I thought they were for Stevie!" And then I would just laugh.

Nick: I mean, my first question that I wrote down was: was this wrapped? Like, was there a bow on this bag of Birds Eye Medley? Like, what was the presentation? Because if it was a gift for the dog—I mean, let's just, like, from their perspective. "Oh, let's get our neighbors a gift. And because our dogs are friends, let's give a dog gift. Okay, great. The dog eats chicken breast, rice and vegetables. And so we're only gonna give the vegetable part of that meal? Like, if I was gonna give a gift that was that meal, I would at least include the rice too, right? Like, wouldn't I do—actually, I would do chicken too.

Leah: It's already a bit of an odd gesture to just give somebody a bag of frozen vegetables and say, "Merry Christmas."

Nick: Yeah. Correct.

Leah: So I think that trying to figure it out is gonna make us all—who knows? Maybe they were like, "I heard you broke your leg, and this is how I soothe my ..."

Nick: Oh, okay. So it's an ice pack.

Leah: Whenever I have, like, a swollen part, like, or if I just had dental work or I hurt something, I put a bag of frozen vegetables on it. You know, we don't know what the possibilities are. So let's just pick one. We have a relationship about our dogs. We go with that. We send the dog thank-you note. Boom!

Nick: Yeah. I mean, what this sounds like to me is, "Oh, we're going out of town. We want to give our neighbor something. We have nothing in the house except frozen vegetables. That is vaguely related to something they might use, and so that is now our gift." Like, that is how I think we arrived at this. I do not believe we were like, "Oh, let's create a gift list for this holiday season. Okay, for our neighbors? Vegetables. Let's go out and buy that for them." Like, I don't think that was happening. I think we shopped our house and this was the best we could come up with.

Leah: I think so too.

Nick: [laughs]

Nick: Because I think the other option is to just say nothing.

Nick: Well, I think the thank-you note is not actually technically required because you did express your gratitude in the moment of receiving this gift, and I feel like your verbal thanks was proportionate to the gift that was received. So while a written thank-you note afterwards is totally great, you should do it, I don't know if you actually have to in this circumstance. But if you did want to send a thank-you note. I think the thank-you note would be from the whole family, including the dog. So it's like, me, my partner and my dog. Paw print. And, like, then it becomes from us as a household. And then, like, who knows who had the vegetables?

Leah: Okay.

Nick: Right? So I feel like I want my name on the thank-you note too. Not just the dog. Just in case.

Leah: Well, this one's gonna knock your socks off, but when you give a thank-you note from the dog, the people getting it know that it's also from you because they know that the dog didn't go get the thank-you note. [laughs]

Nick: No, but if me as human is not also acknowledging the fact—thank you for clarifying that. That is very important. I was under the impression that your dogs were literate, given how well behaved they are. [laughs] No, but if I got a thank-you note and it was from a dog only, I would think that the humans didn't appreciate my gift. Or that you thought the gift wasn't for the humans, that only the dog wanted the vegetables. And so to cover my bases, in case the vegetables were for the humans and not just for the dog, it's important for the humans to acknowledge the vegetables.

Leah: I think that what Nick said about how—I don't think you have to say thank you—send a thank-you note for this. If because they're your neighbor and you see them regularly, you want to do that, then I guess what Nick said is the most lovely: from all three of you, But I think you can just send it from the dog.

Nick: But I think anytime we're giving a gift that is a little vague, I think it's real nice just to give a little explanation as we're giving the gift, which is like, "Hey, I know you like vegetables because you're vegetarian. Thought of you." I mean, I need a little context.

Leah: I just think it would be so weird to be like, "I heard you don't eat meat, so here's a frozen—I imagine that your whole life is you eating frozen vegetables." I just—what a leap!

Nick: It's a weird gift. It's not a great gift. This, as gifts go? Not great.

Leah: I'm saying—I'm not saying our letter-writer was like, maybe they meant that because they gotta guess. They weren't clear about it. But I mean, me, the gift giver, I do not give my vegetarian friends bags of vegetables.

Nick: You don't?

Leah: No. Not bags of frozen vegetables.

Nick: Maybe you should. [laughs] Okay. Yeah, it's not great. Yeah. And the frozen part, that actually dials it up because, like, if you were at a farmer's market and saw, like, a beautiful bundle of ramps, in season corn, like, and it's like, "Oh, I thought of you and this looks so wonderful. I thought you might enjoy these things." Like, that's a different category than this.

Leah: Well, that would be an entirely different gift. I think—that's why I think it was for the dog. You guys—your dog—their dog stayed with you for the weekend. Your dogs play every night. They must know that you feed your dog cooked meals.

Nick: Yeah. So enjoy. Bon appetit!

Leah: I like the husband's idea, though. Let's not mention it and stay perplexed.

Nick: I'm with him on this.

Leah: I do think it's possible to just be like, "Let's just act like this never happened."

Nick: Yeah. "Thank you so much! What a wonderful gift! Happy holidays!"

Leah: Done. Over.

Nick: Done. Let's never speak of it again.

Leah: I actually, now that we've worked our way all the way through that, that's my favorite answer. Let's never speak of it again.

Nick: Yeah. Let's just pretend this never happened.

Leah: You said thank you in the moment. Boom.

Nick: "Thank you so much! Delicious. Happy holidays."

Leah: Yeah, I like that answer the best.

Nick: [laughs] Okay, great. So our next question is quote, "What's the proper etiquette when you are boarding an airplane but you missed your called zone or group? Is it okay to go in front of the people in a group later than yours, or do you just wait it out until the end of the line to get onto the plane?"

Leah: You miss your boarding zone, you get in the back of the line.

Nick: Um, is that it? Is it that clear? Is that cut and dry?

Leah: Yeah. If they're on to group C and you were B, I don't think you can go up to the front and go, "I was B. I just wasn't paying attention."

Nick: So what if it's one of those boarding situations where there's, like, the sky priority lane, and then, like, the other people lane?

Leah: Oh. Like, there's two lanes?

Nick: Right? So I feel like that's okay.

Leah: That's okay. Then you can go onto your side.

Nick: Okay. So I think that could be a little bit of a loophole.

Leah: But I don't think cutting is.

Nick: Yeah. So I think you have to go to the back of the line of the group that is now boarding.

Leah: If there's one line.

Nick: Right. So you can certainly cut ahead of people who have not been called yet. That's totally fine. Because I think the boarding is really like, oh, "Groups one to four are now welcome to board." So, like, it's inclusive.

Leah: Yes.

Nick: Right? So I guess that's how that goes. But yeah, I guess if there's two lanes, then you are welcome to use a lane that's assigned to you. So if there is, like, a priority lane for you, then okay.

Leah: And as a reminder, if your group has not been called, do not stand at the front and block people entering.

Nick: Do not be gate lice.

Leah: It is disrespectful and gross.

Nick: Well, and also, just as long as we're on the topic, airlines need to do a better job of enforcing this. Like, for whatever reason, I think most airlines in the boarding pass scanning system, it will not kick someone out if their group has not been called. It'll just let you board. And I feel like we need technology which is like, "Oh, your group has not been called yet," and like, beep, beep, oh, automatically flagged. And I feel like the system currently just relies on the gate agent manually looking at people's tickets, whether or not their group has been called. And, like, I think we need a little more technology involved.

Leah: I have seen gate agents booting people and say, "I haven't called this yet."

Nick: Okay. Yeah, I have not seen enough of that.

Leah: I just don't like people standing. You should not be standing in the way of the people who have been called. It's just ridiculous.

Nick: And also, I do want one line for each group. Like, don't make groups two through nine line up together, because, like, that doesn't work. So I do need, like, a separate line for each group that you're about to call. So can we do that?

Leah: The amount of pressure now at gates, like, when they want people to check their bags.

Nick: Oh, the gate check? Yeah.

Leah: The gate check. They're like, "I need 30 people to check your bags." And you're like, "No one's checking their bags."

Nick: [laughs] So ...

Leah: The anxiety in the room.

Nick: So our next question is quote, "So I moved to a new city and decided to be brave socially and organize a group of women to play cards once a month during the winter. The group was really fun, but one of the women would spend the whole time dominating the conversation by talking trash about some of our mutual acquaintances. I prefer interesting conversation and not cruel gossip. I tried to redirect the conversations many times, and she did not take the hint. So I politely said to this woman one afternoon as she was ripping someone's reputation to shreds, that I disagreed with her view. We adjourned for the summer, and to my shock, I recently found out that she has reorganized my group but without me in it. One of the women told me she was surprised I was replaced. It sounds silly to admit this as a grown woman, but my feelings were really hurt. What should I do? What would you two do?"

Leah: This made me so angry I texted Nick.

Nick: [laughs] Yes, I did get—I did get a text. Normally, Leah and I do not discuss the questions, but sometimes Leah cannot help herself.

Leah: I can't help myself. I get so emotional. A) Let me say—I have multiple compliments to give to our letter-writer, and I think they are, A) As grown women, our feelings are allowed to be hurt. Don't feel bad about it.

Nick: Yes.

Leah: We all have feelings.

Nick: Mm-hmm.

Leah: Also, great job moving to a new city and organizing a fun event. That's really cool of you.

Nick: Uh-huh.

Leah: Also, I think it takes a very strong, wonderful person to say, "I don't want to talk trash about people." I love that.

Nick: Yes.

Leah: That's really nice.

Nick: Yes.

Leah: And terrific.

Nick: Yes. And I think what's maddening here is that the person actually now we want to talk trash about is this person who did this to you. But we are going to be dignified and we're not gonna do that. And that is disappointing because I kind of want to talk trash about this person.

Leah: Well, now Nick and I are going to talk trash about them.

Nick: [laughs] We're gonna do this on your behalf.

Leah: Because you're a better person than us. I also—I'm gonna give these other people in the group the benefit of the doubt that they thought that this was still the same group, and they showed up and were shocked that you weren't there.

Nick: Yes. I think I do have some follow-up questions on that. Like, did people pick sides? Do people not know what's happening?

Leah: My guess is that they didn't know what was happening. But I would like to go interview them and say, "Now that you know that trash-talkin' Sally took this group from our lovely, wonderful person and restarted it because she wanted to be able to have no—no moral compass in the room, don't you feel like maybe you did something—you were a party to something that is foul?"

Nick: [laughs] Yeah. Yeah. No, that's how that interview would go. So yeah, I think you were totally allowed to be annoyed by all this and have your feelings hurt. But what do we do now? What's the move?

Leah: That's so hard.

Nick: So I guess one question would be if you were gonna restart this group, you weren't gonna want this person in it, right? Like, you were gonna exclude that person. And so how is that gonna go down? And actually, aren't you better off not being part of this new group? And I guess if all of these mutual friends don't feel the need to pick sides and could also be part of your group, well then I guess that's good.

Leah: Mmm.

Nick: But do we not want to do another group? Is it too similar? Is it gonna feel competitive?

Leah: I'm just gonna trot this out.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: And you let me know if it's wrong.

Nick: Oh, I will.

Leah: I know you will.

Nick: [laughs] It's what I'm here for.

Leah: I would want—because my feelings are hurt, I would want these people to know that I felt sad that they restarted this group and I wasn't invited.

Nick: Okay. All right. Interesting.

Leah: So I would like them to know that.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: And then I would move on and join another group that's something completely different.

Nick: Okay. I mean, part of me would love revenge, and to start my group, have all of the original players, minus this one woman, join mine and stop going to hers. And now that woman is alone. Like, that's the revenge I'm seeking. But I don't think we live in that world.

Leah: Yes, I would love that revenge, but my guess is that these people in this group do not have the backbones to leave this other woman's group.

Nick: Correct.

Leah: Because they—if they did, they would have come to you and said something more definitive.

Nick: Right. And also if they did, then that woman is gonna be talking smack about all of them, and they don't want that.

Leah: Well, she's like, obviously the mean girl.

Nick: Yes. She's got a burn book. Okay, so we want to convey that we were not thrilled that any of this happened. And so how do you want to sort of convey that to these mutual people?

Leah: I think it depends on how close you are with them. It seems like you're not—they're not like, besties.

Nick: No. These are acquaintances. These are just acquaintances. Yeah. I don't think there's really a way to convey that. I mean, I think if these people reach out, then you would say, like, "Oh, I was really hurt that that happened. I hope you're enjoying the new group." And then, like, leave it at that.

Leah: I don't know if I would add the last part in because it sounds ...

Nick: Did it sound sincere when I just said it?

Leah: No.

Nick: Yeah. So that works then. [laughs]

Leah: I know. But I mean, I think you could just say "This super hurt my feelings."

Nick: Yeah. "I was disappointed that that is what happened." Period.

Leah: I would say, "It hurt my feelings."

Nick: Okay. Yeah.

Leah: But I feel like Nick—Nick, who wants people to dwell in shame, would say it was disappointed.

Nick: I prefer that. But yeah, I mean, say what you want to say. You could be like, "I was disappointed and it hurt my feelings." How's that?

Leah: Do what feels right.

Nick: Yeah. But I mean, I don't think we're, like, sending an email out, are we? We're not, like, proactively sending an email.

Leah: I think you could DM them.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: I mean, you got in touch with them to start the thing. I think you could be like, "Hey, I heard that you guys are doing a thing and I wasn't invited and that sort of really hurt my feelings." And then just leave it.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: And then—I mean, why not? Let's let these people know "You hurt my feelings." And then, you know, I just saw they have this—this program where you can go—it's called, like, "Take a dog out for a day."

Nick: [laughs] Okay.

Leah: You go to a shelter and then you take the dog. You know, because a lot of them don't get to leave ever. You take them for a walk, you take them to get a pup cup. You know? You just go and you do something entirely different. You could go join that program. I'm now into, like maybe we do a volunteering in old folks' homes. That's fun. Make new friends there.

Nick: Yeah. I mean, I think when you move to a new city, it can sometimes take time to find your right people. And the people you originally meet when you move somewhere may not be the people that are, like, there in the long run. And there's gonna be a lot of theater reseating happening. And it turns out these acquaintances may be not a good fit for you. And so that's fine. I mean, great to learn this earlier than later. And so you just have to audition other people, other things until you find your tribe.

Leah: I also—there's this video going around the internet, you know, as they do, that's like—it's called "Let Them." And it's like, if people want to do this and not involve you, let them. If people want to—you know, don't waste your energy trying to change people's behaviors because they're showing you, you know, who they are. So—but then you can still tell your truth of, "You guys really hurt my feelings." But then let them lead this life where they're letting this mean lady tell them how to live and you go find other people.

Nick: Yeah. And next time we're in your city, delighted to play cards with you. Let us know. I love a good game night.

Leah: Oh, that would be so fun.

Nick: Wouldn't it? Yeah. And then I'll teach everybody mahjong. How's that?

Leah: It sounds—this sounds like a great night.

Nick: Right?

Leah: Do we know what city this is?

Nick: Uh, I feel like this might be Boston? Maybe it's Boston.

Leah: This feels very Boston.

Nick: Right? Yeah. This is so Boston.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: So East Coast! Yeah. This is not happening in Palm Springs. Actually, this could be happening in Palm Springs.

Leah: [laughs] This could also be Palm Springs.

Nick: Yeah. Or this—this could be London. Yeah. This could be Sao Paulo. Yeah. No, this is actually pretty universal.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: Wherever it is, we'll show up, we'll have a game night.

Leah: I love it!

Nick: So our next question is quote, "I was at Eataly the other day, and I was trying to find the restrooms. I asked a guy who was working at one of the counters where the restrooms were, and he said, 'Straight ahead and to the right. Enjoy!' It was the weirdest thing! His friends, who were also behind the counter, started laughing. I pretended not to hear the original guy or the laughing friends and just kept walking. But I was very annoyed, to say the least. Should I have confronted this guy?"

Leah: I really hate this when people laugh and I don't quite get why they're laughing, but it feels like it's at me.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: I hate it so much, but I feel like it happens to everybody.

Nick: Sure. But for this, I don't think the friends were laughing at you. I think they were probably laughing at the friend.

Leah: Well, that's what I was gonna say. Like, I think a lot of times it's actually—it's just weird timing.

Nick: Yeah.

Leah: Because it's—you're leaving and they're laughing. But I think they—their friend is like, says weird things and they just are like, "You're so wild!"

Nick: Yeah. I mean, because yeah, the idea of, like, "Oh, enjoy!" Yeah, this is not typically what we say when we're giving bathroom directions. Although, don't we all want to enjoy the bathroom? I mean, what's the alternative, right?

Leah: Also, when you get to go pee after, it's wonderful.

Nick: Right? Like, I don't want a bathroom experience to be like, "That was not enjoyable." [laughs] Like, I don't want that. No. I want joy. Yes. "How was that restroom?" "Joyful. It was a joyful restroom." Like, that's what we want.

Leah: I love a joyful reference. And I think that's the nicest way to think about it. Like, because I do—was trying to say, I get the instinct to feel like something happened.

Nick: Yes.

Leah: And people are, like, laughing at me, and they were trying to, like, say something to me. But I think this person just says—says things because they're like, "Have a great pee!" And then his coworkers were like, "You're wild!"

Nick: Yes, totally. I mean, I think probably what it is is that all day long, he's, like, slicing prosciutto for people and be like, "Here's your prosciutto. Enjoy." And he just ends every customer encounter with the word "enjoy." And so, like, "Oh, the bathrooms are down the hall. Enjoy." Like, I think there was nothing further than that. But yes, I mean, it's not fun to have, like, people snickering behind your back. Like, I get that.

Leah: No, it's not fun. And I get that feeling. And I think the easiest way is to be like, oh, something else is happening that I don't know about.

Nick: Yeah. So I feel like that's probably what happened here. But I mean, I hope you had an enjoyable Eataly bathroom experience.

Leah: I'm assuming this is the one in—on 14th Street.

Nick: Oh, there's Eatalys everywhere now. I mean, my gosh. Like, they're all over New York City. They're, like, all over Italy. Like, they're totally international.

Leah: Why did I immediately envisualize that this is the one on 14th Street? I just felt it.

Nick: Well, you're thinking of the one on Madison Square, 23rd Street. You have been out of New York City for too long.

Leah: [gasps] That is what I'm thinking of! Oh, I'm so embarrassed!

Nick: [laughs] Yeah, you've gotten soft. Yes.

Leah: I have gotten so soft. I'm so embarrassed.

Nick: You're gonna start referring to the subway lines by color now.

Leah: Oh, no! Who is she?

Nick: She's a West Coast girl now.

Leah: You know, I was just thinking of that corner, and I immediately pushed it down to—and of course, it's not 14th!

Nick: Of course.

Leah: Oh, no!

Nick: You're thinking of Whole Foods. Who knows? But no, Eataly is, like, global. So, like, this could be anywhere in the world that this was happening. I mean, this might have actually happened in a language other than English for all we know. This could just be a question that got translated for us.

Leah: Also, the other option is sometimes you take the laugh back, and you turn around and you go, "I will! Thank you!"

Nick: I mean, that's good. Or your way out of the restroom, you would go back to the counter and be like, "That bathroom? Enjoyable." And then walk off.

Leah: Yeah. Yes.

Nick: That might be a nice way to actually button that up. Yeah.

Leah: And that way you feel like oh, I'm in this with you.

Nick: Take the power back.

Leah: Take the power back.

Nick: So our next thing is an etiquette crime report.

Leah: Get on the floor! Stop driving your car!

Nick: Yeah. This is so wild.

Leah: Stand in a doorway!

Nick: Yeah. No, get into the basement. Whatever you do for tornadoes, bathtub, whatever—whatever you need to do to be safe right now, gotta do that.

Leah: Whoo!

Nick: Gotta do that. So it is quote, "After retiring, my mother, like many retirees, became more involved with local nonprofits. My parents weren't wealthy, so much of her efforts involved volunteering, serving on boards, writing grants and organizing events. It goes without saying that most of the people she worked with were lovely. One of the organizations that my mom worked with threw a silent auction that my mom helped to organize. One woman—let's call her Lisa—donated a necklace for the silent auction that had been made by a friend of hers. In the run up to the event, Lisa talked up the necklace significantly, and it was definitely my mom's style. At the event, my mom bid on the necklace and her bid ended up winning. My mom was genuinely thrilled to have won the necklace, and she shared her appreciation with Lisa for donating such a beautiful piece. Lisa's response? She complained that my mom's winning bid was well below market value, implying that my mom was somehow shortchanging the organization.

Nick: "Lisa then went a step further, and suggested that the best course of action would be for my mom to give the necklace back so that it could be part of the next auction, and hopefully raise a more appropriate amount of money. My mother demurred, again stated how lovely the necklace was and how honored she was to have won such a beautiful piece. We all thought that was the end of it.

Nick: "Fast forward about a year, and my mom passed away very suddenly after a short illness. While I was home going through some correspondence with my dad, among the lovely notes from the many people my mom had touched was a note from Lisa. After opening with her condolences, she switched gears and once again brought up the necklace. She reminded my father that his recently deceased wife of 50 years had underpaid for a necklace that she, Lisa, had so generously donated. She then went on to suggest that a fitting memorial for my mother would be to redonate the necklace so that it could be re-auctioned, hopefully bringing in a more appropriate amount of money this time. Bonkers! She doubled down on petty in a condolence letter. Needless to say, she did not get a thank-you note and that necklace is currently sitting in my jewelry box."

Leah: Uh ...

Nick: I mean, this is so wild. This is so wild.

Leah: This is so wild.

Nick: This is so—what is this necklace? I mean ...

Leah: This woman is rabid. This is a rabid woman.

Nick: Golly! My precious! What is this necklace? I mean, wow? Wow. I mean, what is there to say?

Leah: I didn't—I couldn't imagine that it would—this is where it was gonna go, that she was gonna take it to this ...

Nick: Yeah. No, I mean, beyond the grave.

Leah: I was already mortified for the first.

Nick: Yeah. Oh, no, no. Lisa really took it to a whole new place.

Leah: Lisa is like a gold medalist in trash behavior.

Nick: Oh, this is beyond that. I mean, this is—you've not only won the gold, you are global champion. You are on the Wheaties box. I mean, you're getting all the endorsements. Yeah. No, you are the best in the world.

Leah: You are the best in the world at being the worst. You are the best at being the worst. Congratulations.

Nick: I mean, this is definitely top five? Top five?

Leah: It's so disrespectful.

Nick: Yeah. I mean, because—I mean, well, to our letter-writer, I'm so sorry that this has happened. And to get this letter.

Leah: And I'm so sorry for your mom's passing.

Nick: Yeah. And the last thing you need is this letter from Lisa about this necklace.

Leah: Right. She obviously did so many wonderful things and touched so many lives, and then we have Lisa showing up like a—like a monster from the deep.

Nick: Yeah. Like, "Sorry about your loss, but by the way, that necklace?"

Leah: "Can we talk about me?"

Nick: [laughs] And it's just—I mean, this necklace? The obsession with the necklace is really wild.

Leah: I just—what?

Nick: What? Yeah. What? What?

Leah: What?

Nick: What? What? Yeah. So this is an etiquette crime. Yeah. No, this is the very definition of an etiquette crime. Yeah. So thank you for sending it to us. I hope this brought some relief, or I hope this was helpful sending this to us. I hope this brought you something good by sharing this with us.

Leah: Yeah. Because we all—you floored all of us. Lisa is definitely—you really met a corker.

Nick: [laughs] Yeah. That's a real nice way to put it. Yeah, Lisa is something special. She's real something special. So thank you. And you out there, if you have an etiquette crime to report, if you've been the victim or a witness to one, send it to us: EtiquetteCrime.com. Because we love to get them.

Leah: I'm still in shock. I wish we had a letter. Maybe this is something for the Were You Raised By Wolves? a thing to fill. Like another service we can provide.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: Some form of stationery that has something in it that's more properly worded than, "What are you thinking? Like, have you lost your mind?" Like, something ...

Nick: Uh-huh. So a line of "What is wrong with you?"

Leah: Yes. A line of "What is wrong with you?" stationery.

Nick: Okay. Okay.

Leah: [laughs] That people can just put in the mail, and it could be our address on the back.

Nick: I see.

Leah: So if they don't want to take it ...

Nick: I mean, Leah, we already have this stationery, because we have stationary that says, Were You Raised By Wolves? Like, we are already ...

Leah: But I like the idea that they open it and it says, "What is wrong with you?"

Nick: Ah, okay. So on the outside it says, Were You Raised By Wolves? logo. How jaunty. And then inside, you open it and then it just says, "What is wrong with you?"

Leah: [laughs] Yes. Yes.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: Yes!

Nick: And somehow it needs to have a typeface that has that tone.

Leah: Yes. And then, like, maybe that emoji that has the exploding head?

Nick: Or just thumbs down.

Leah: Thumbs down. Yes! Thumbs down!

Nick: What is wrong with you?

Leah: Thumbs down. [laughs]

Nick: "Best wishes, Nick and Leah." Yeah.

Leah: Boo! "Best wishes, Nick and Leah." Yes! Yes!

Nick: So thank you for sending us this etiquette crime report. And you out there, as always, if you've got questions, vents, repents, we'll also take it. And you can send it to us through our website, WereYouRaisedByWolves.com. Or you can leave us a voicemail or send us a text message: (267) CALL-RBW. And we'll see you next time.

Leah: Bye!

Nick: Bye!