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Aug. 19, 2024

Getting Passive-Aggressive with Tissues, Tossing Spoiled Food, Calling Out Rudeness, and More

Etiquette, manners, and beyond! In this episode, Nick and Leah answer listener questions about putting used tissues in someone's shoes, throwing away spoiled food, telling people they're being rude, and much more.

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QUESTIONS FROM THE WILDERNESS:

  • If you’ve asked someone to not leave tissues and paper towels around the house, is it OK to then put those tissues in their shoes, luggage, or lunchbox?
  • As a houseguest, can I empty out a fridge in order to find a spoiled item and throw it away?
  • What's the best way to handle colleagues who belittle the people below them?
  • Any advice for people who want to be better at small talk and moving a conversation away from work?
  • Is it ever OK to tell someone they're being rude?
  • Said To My Face: Diminishing a career achievement

 

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Hosts: Nick Leighton & Leah Bonnema

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Nick: Hey, everybody. It's Nick Leighton.

Leah: And it's Leah Bonnema.

Nick: And we had so many great questions from you all in the wilderness ...

Leah: [howls]

Nick: ... that we have a bonus episode. And these questions all come from our recent live show in Washington, DC.

Leah: At the beginning of our live shows, if you haven't been to one yet, we ask people to write in some questions and then we answer them live. But we got so many that we couldn't get through them all, so we brought 'em back to y'all.

Nick: Yes, because these are great questions, so we need to discuss them.

Leah: For sure.

Nick: And so our first one is quote, "If someone close to you has a habit of leaving tissues and paper towels everywhere, despite requests not to, is it acceptable to put those items in his shoes, luggage and/or lunchbox? #MoreFunThanConfrontation." [laughs]

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: So okay, we have a situation where somebody is leaving tissues and paper towels everywhere.

Leah: Do we think this is a couple?

Nick: Well, I thought that until we got to the word "lunchbox." So is this, like, my child? I mean, do adults use lunchboxes? I guess they do.

Leah: I think adults do use lunchboxes, because I think if it was a parent, that would be—I think parents would be like, "Pick up your tissues."

Nick: Right. Okay, so let's assume this is a spouse.

Leah: Yes.

Nick: Okay, so we have a spouse that I've asked them not to do this and they're doing it. And so can I just put these tissues in their shoes?

Leah: I was worried this was me until I got to "his shoes" and I was like, okay.

Nick: Do you leave things around?

Leah: Nicholas Leighton. Do you think I don't leave things around?

Nick: No, but you're not using, like, used tissues around the house, are you?

Leah: Okay, so here's—this is a historical ...

Nick: Leah Bonnema, what is happening?

Leah: I don't leave them out, but I will definitely find them in pockets.

Nick: Okay. I mean, I feel like there is a slight distinction between, you know, the long sweater where you have the tissues shoved up your sleeve to have at the ready. You know, we all have people in our lives that do this. Okay, but, like, are you just dropping them around the house?

Leah: No?

Nick: Okay. Defend yourself.

Leah: [laughs] I said I wasn't.

Nick: Okay, so what is happening then?

Leah: I'm saying like, if you put on a jacket, if you were like, "Can I borrow a jacket?" And I'd be like, "Sure." And you put on a jacket and you put your hand, there's probably some paper towels in there. I have a backup paper towel everywhere. Everywhere.

Nick: All right, so in pockets? You're leaving them in pockets?

Leah: They're in pockets. Maybe they're on my desk.

Nick: Mm-hmm. Where else are they?

Leah: That I would say is it.

Nick: Okay, so a desk and then pockets. Okay. This feels relatively mild. It does feel like these tissues are being left everywhere, which is a lot of places. So this feels like a slightly elevated version of what you're doing.

Leah: I assume these are used. They're not leaving boxes of tissues and rolls of paper towels everywhere.

Nick: That would be great. Just unopened boxes of Charmin just on the coffee table.

Leah: Yeah, just right there.

Nick: In the hallway. Kitchen counter. Brand new rolls of Bounty. No, I think these are wadded up, little clumpy used things, which is kind of gross.

Leah: I mean, I think that maybe you could make them into some sort of sculpture and leave them by the door.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: And say, "I've made you a tissue—" like, just so that you could get the physical size of how many tissues it is. "I made you a tissue man. This is how many tissues you left. I made a whole man standing by the door."

Nick: "Like, that's not a Mark di Suvero sculpture. That's your tissues!"

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: Okay. I mean, we've already requested that this not happen so, like, we've already requested it. So our question-writer wants to know, like, can I just take matters into my own hands? And so it's passive-aggressive. It's certainly passive-aggressive to, like, just put used tissues in their shoes.

Leah: I always think—this is how I personally handle couples stuff, which is" is this a make or break?

Nick: Okay. Is this the hill you wanna die on?

Leah: And if it's not, then I just let it go.

Nick: Okay. I think that's certainly one path.

Leah: And I'll make fun of them. I'll be like, "Oh, I just sat on a pile of tissues!"

Nick: [laughs]

Leah: But not in, like, a passive-aggressive way. Just in, like, a "This is your thing." And ...

Nick: That's so you.

Leah: Just like I have my things that I know I do.

Nick: Yeah. No, that's fair. Okay, so I like that approach. It's like, can we just let it go? Because if we do put the tissues in shoes and lunchboxes and luggage, then we are escalating. And then who knows where else tissues might be left? You know, there could be sort of, like, the tissue horse head in the bed at some point. Like, it could get to some extreme escalation event, and we don't want that.

Leah: Unless it's funny, in which case, I think, start with the horse head. Just make it funny.

Nick: [laughs]

Leah: That way, you sort of skip over the passive-aggressive phase, as Nick would call it. And we just go right to aggressive. Very hilarious. Imagine you fashioned a horse head out of used tissues and put it in the bed.

Nick: Papier-mâché . Yeah. No, that's pretty good. Actually, slow clap. Slow clap. You have our permission for that.

Leah: Yeah. That is, I think, would be so funny.

Nick: Approved. Yeah. The other idea I had if you did not want to start crafting was: are you involved in the sourcing of these paper goods? Because if you are involved in the sourcing, then maybe you can also be involved in the storage, which could then be under lock and key, in which case there just isn't paper goods in the house that are available to be used without permission and supervision. And it's sort of like, "Oh, you need to blow your nose? One moment, let me get my keys." And then you can kind of control the supply chain.

Leah: I love the idea of putting something under lock and key. Another option is just to say it again ...

Nick: [laughs] It's a really bad idea.

Leah: Yeah, it definitely is, but it's funny. Is you could say, "Babe—" I know you've already said it, but you could just say it again, "Babe, like, dirty tissues makes me feel gross."

Nick: Yeah.

Leah: "Can you just throw them away?"

Nick: Yeah.

Leah: But with no—just be like, "Babe, just as a reminder." Because it does say "his shoes." No disrespect. I think sometimes, you know guys. You know guys. Papier-mâché

Nick: Yeah. Yeah. No, that's—not to generalize but, you know, it's not shocking.

Leah: You guys and Leah, basically. We—I need a quick reminder. "Babe, don't leave dirty tissues out." "Oh, my goodness. Sorry!" And then I'll grab it and pick it up.

Nick: Right, because, like, this is not nefarious.

Leah: I don't think it's nefarious. And I get how people feel like, oh, you're not listening to me. Or you don't care what's important to me, or you don't care that I do all these other things.

Nick: Right.

Leah: So I do think you could just be like, "Babe, babe, I hate dirty tissues. Can you just grab those?"

Nick: Okay. Yeah. I think polite-yet-direct, value neutral, not judgmental. Yeah, I think this is the approach.

Leah: Or the horse head.

Nick: Or horse head. Yeah, that's definitely still on the table. Yeah. Or in the bed, as the case may be.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: So our next question is quote, "I'm staying at my brother and sister-in-law's apartment while they're out of town. The first thing I did was take a photo of the pillow configurations. After that, I opened the fridge, and I noticed that something smelled rotten, but I couldn't immediately tell what it was. My question is: can I empty out the fridge shelf by shelf to locate and dispose of the offender, or would this be read as a commentary on their housekeeping? I'd like to show appreciation for their generosity by being helpful, but I don't want to be rude. What would you do?"

Leah: I think because we don't want to risk feeling like we're making a commentary. We don't want to, like, unload it shelf by shelf, clean it, and put everything back in in a certain way.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: So I think we can just locate what it is by just sort of rummaging, and then text our brother and go, "Hey, there's some blank in here going bad. Cool if I throw it out?"

Nick: Right. Okay. Yeah, I think I was kind of like, along those lines. But first, let's just talk about taking photos of pillows. That's something that I do, and I mentioned it a long time ago in some episode. Basically, the idea is if you're a houseguest, and you're in a house where you think the pillow configuration is very important to the owners of the home, take a picture of it first so that you can put it back. Like, I was a house guest in Los Angeles, some friends with very good taste. They had a lot of pillows in their bed. I definitely wanted to make sure that all of those decorative pillows went exactly back. So I had a photo record. Highly recommend."

Leah: I think our letter-writer is referencing you here.

Nick: Yeah, I would assume so. Unless you're just independently coming up with pillow configuration photography.

Leah: I mean, they may, but I think that's why there's an exclamation point. They're like, "I did what you suggested, Nick!"

Nick: Finally, somebody out there is. Thank you. But yes, highly recommend photography of pillows. But yeah, the fridge. So you think you can identify this item without going shelf by shelf, but just by poking around?

Leah: Well, I think you can go through the—I get when you say "Empty shelf by shelf," she's gonna pull out. There's gonna be cleaning. There's gonna be—you know what I mean? Which I think is nice. Like, if you're in my house and you want to clean my fridge, go crazy. But if you feel—if there's a little thing in your brain where you feel like that might be a commentary, then I would just bypass that and just sort of flick through. You can find where stinky is.

Nick: [laughs] Yeah. Yeah, I think you'll be able to find it. And I think asking for permission before you throw it out would be good. I know it sort of feels like oh, there's gonna be maybe a time delay in getting the answer, and then this thing is, like, kind of decomposing in real time. And like, oh, I just wish I could throw it out right now. But I think asking is good, because it could be something that is meant to be fermented. Like, what if it was like, chou doufu? Which have you ever had this, Leah? Do you know what this is?

Leah: I thought you were gonna say, "What if it was a bear head? Bear skull?"

Nick: Bear skull decomposing? Could be. But no, chou doufu is fermented tofu. And it's very popular, like, in night markets in Taiwan. I can't handle it. I really can't handle the smell. It really makes me unhappy. You basically ...

Leah: [laughs] What a great word choice. "Unhappy."

Nick: Really. No, I mean, it's so specific. You basically take tofu, and you basically add fermented milk and vegetables and meat, and you brine it upwards of several months. Like, you can imagine what fermented tofu—and I've tried it. It is tasty. It is delicious. I get why people enjoy it, but I just—the smell doesn't work for me. If that was in your fridge, I would have a real hard time with that, but I wouldn't want to throw it out because, like, it's not actually bad. So, you know, asking for permission? Yeah.

Leah: And while you wait, you could always just put it in a bag, ziplock it, wait 'til they get back.

Nick: I mean, something that's stinky, that's—you don't wanna—you don't wanna get involved. You just gotta kinda let it be.

Leah: I'm just throwing out ideas. If it's real, real ripe.

Nick: Now let's say we have to throw it out immediately. We can't ask for permission. I guess then we do it, and then we give them a heads up. Like, "Oh, this thing? I tossed it. Hope that was okay."

Leah: Yeah, I would just do that.

Nick: Like, if it's very clear. Like, this is an old greek yogurt that has now turned into a furry ball of green mass.

Leah: You're like, "There's a green yogurt in there that's now grown a head and is talking to me. I had to throw it out. It's animated."

Nick: [laughs] Right. Yes. Yes, "Your takeout pizza from three weeks ago is now sentient. And so it had to go. Got a little mouthy." Yeah.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: So then in which case yeah, I guess if it's definitive, I guess you could just toss it. But I think we want to give them a heads up. I don't think we want to necessarily let them be surprised about changes in their fridge.

Leah: Yeah. And I think that's—I feel good about this answer.

Nick: Yeah. No, I think that's pretty solid. And I think everybody's homework: go have some fermented tofu, some chou doufu and try it. Let me know what you think. So our next question is quote, "At my workplace, there is frequent fawning in meetings towards people in power, and petty—if not totally nasty—comments towards staffers at the lowest end of the pay scale, including unpaid interns. What are effective ways to push back on this? Any back pocket phrases that can be used? Are there ways to punch up?

Leah: I was like, are you working in the movie, The Boiler Room?

Nick: I mean, this is Washington, DC. I mean, you know, high stakes something.

Leah: This is Veep. You're in Veep.

Nick: So what do we do about this? Because I think this is a—this is a common thing. This happens.

Leah: Well, I think we can start with our behavior, which is we're polite to everybody.

Nick: Yes. That actually was the first thing on my list: model good behavior.

Leah: And then I think, like, when you're in a group of people and if they're all punching down, you could say, "Well, I really like them. I think they're trying hard."

Nick: Yeah. I mean, I guess back pocket sentences? I guess something like, "Oh, let's try to keep our comments professional and supportive." Could be hard to land depending on, like, who you're speaking to, but that could be kind of the world in which we wanna say something. Or like, maybe, "Oh, I've noticed that our interns and our lower-paid staffers don't always get the recognition they deserve, and they've been really working hard. So I think maybe it might boost morale if we gave them a little more encouragement."

Leah: Or we could get sassy.

Nick: Uh oh!

Leah: And, like, say it's we're in a group meeting and somebody is—what are you saying? Fawning?

Nick: Mm-hmm?

Leah: And then they are rude to a lower staffer, you could just look at the lower staffer and go, "Don't even worry about it. John's only nice when you can line his pockets."

Nick: [laughs] Okay. I mean, there's something in the world of going up to those staffers privately and letting them know, like, "Hey, what he said to you in that meeting was, like, totally uncalled for. Try not to take it personally." I think there could be a world in which you sort of maybe have a private conversation with those people. And a private conversation with the people above, too, which is like, "Hey, I know you didn't mean it this way, but this is how something like that might be received, and it's important for morale or also just getting the best work out of everybody, for everybody to feel like their contributions matter."

Leah: I do think it's like a culture where people think when you're new, you get razzed, you know?

Nick: Yeah.

Leah: Like, that's a part of it. I feel like comedy's a lot like that—much less now, but that was like, you just get dumped on when you start and everybody jumps in, and they think it's—you know, and I'm not saying that that's acceptable or okay. It's like hazing.

Nick: Yes. Yeah. Although this feels like that goes beyond that. This just feels like we just don't respect the people who work below us.

Leah: Which is gross.

Nick: Yeah. No, that's not great. And I think actually, when we think about etiquette as a selfish act—which I think is a fine way to think about it sometimes—like, you want to be nice to the interns because interns become, you know, Speaker of the House, interns become CEO, interns go on to do stuff, and you might actually need them later. And so it's in your best interest to be nice to the interns 'cause you never know.

Leah: And I remember everybody who was mean to me, let me tell you that.

Nick: Oh, absolutely. And I have had occasion for those people to come back and then need something from me or want something or want a recommendation, et cetera, et cetera. And oh, don't I open the file, review it, and make a decision accordingly?

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: Yes. When I say I file things away? Yeah, because then I can go back to the file, and I can read the file, and I can use the file.

Leah: I want a headshot of you at a filing cabinet, and you're just pulling somebody's file. I feel like this is a phenomenal Nick picture, and I love it. I will say adding on to what Nick said—and put a pin in that, because I really think we should get that photo for you—I think you can go up to people, as Nick said, like, I was making a joke about saying it in public, but, like, if somebody got particularly—what was the word used? Got some nasty comments? I think you can go over and check on them and be like, "Hey, I just want to make sure you're okay. I think you're doing an awesome job. I know people here, like, really razz people, which I don't think is cool. And I just want to let you know I think you're rocking it."

Nick: Yeah. I think that could be nice. And I think also to remember that stuff like this, it's coming from a place of insecurity, because anybody who's confident in what they're doing or their abilities or their position or their title, they don't act this way.

Leah: No, they do not. And I do think what we started off with, which is you be polite to them.

Nick: Yes. Model good behavior, show everybody what it should be.

Leah: And then don't get swept up in it in a group of people when they're doing it.

Nick: That's key. And then when you rise up the ranks, don't turn around and do it to other people.

Leah: Yeah.

Nick: Yeah. So our next question is quote, "Any advice for people who want to be better at small talk and moving a conversation away from work?"

Leah: I feel like we talked about this in terms of cocktail parties.

Nick: Yeah. Although I think this is a particularly DC issue in that so much socializing after work has to do with, like, work. Like, so much of the conversation is, like, work related. And so I think this person wants, like, extra strategies for, like, how do we not talk about work?

Leah: I think you can talk about—I keep forgetting these are the DC questions. So, like, yes, of course, it's Veep.

Nick: Well, but interesting that these are also universal problems. I mean, this is Washington, DC. This is Washington state. This is Berlin, this is Tokyo. Like, this is happening everywhere.

Leah: I think that it's great to bring up something that you recently started doing or something you're really interested in, and share enthusiasm for something, and then maybe they'll share enthusiasm for something they're doing.

Nick: But I think in terms of how to actually steer the conversation, I think we might wanna say something along the lines of, like, "Oh, sounds like you've had a really busy week. What do you like to do to unwind?" And so we can, like, steer it into, like, "Oh, what do you like to do to unwind?" Which hypothetically does not involve work.

Leah: Yes.

Nick: Like, no one is unwinding with work stuff. So, like, "Oh, what do you do to unwind?" And that kind of can open the door a little bit.

Leah: Yeah, I love a "Oh, work is so crazy. I've started taking—I'm trying to hit my 10,000 steps every day, and I love to listen to audiobooks while I walk."

Nick: Nice pivot!

Leah: And then you just move into audiobooks. Stories. "Do you like the library? Are you watching anything on television that you like? Do you walk? Do you meditate when you walk? What's your favorite kind of activity? Do you have dogs that you walk?"

Nick: Or, you know, "I like to listen to podcasts when I walk. In fact, one of my favorite podcasts is hosted by these people named Nick and Leah. They're great." Give us a plug. Yeah.

Leah: There it is.

Nick: We'll take it. [laughs]

Leah: When you are looking for a conversation to get out of work conversation, bring up Were You Raised By Wolves? [laughs]

Nick: Please. Yes. I also like a nice pivot, which doesn't even have to be a sequitur but, like, sometimes I will say, like, "Oh, that reminds me of—" and then the thing that it reminds me of can be actually something I was not reminded of. It's just like, oh, I'm moving this along. So you're talking about work, and I could be like, "Oh, that reminds me of this great chocolate cake recipe I just saw. And you might have been talking about nuclear non proliferation, but like, "Oh, that reminds me. Chocolate cake."

Leah: Yes. They're very similar.

Nick: And you just gotta go with it. And if they question, like, "Oh, how did you make that leap?" You'd be like, "You know how my mind works. I just—it just went there. I don't know why." But then we talk about the chocolate cake recipe, and now we're off to the races.

Leah: I like those races, too. That's a race I would like to be involved in, the chocolate cake recipe.

Nick: Oh, actually, it's a great recipe. I recommend it. I will forward it to you. Actually, I just made it gluten free for a friend who was ...

Leah: Really?

Nick: Yeah, it totally worked. Yeah. Sidebar.

Leah: I usually say "Related, not related." That's my same thing.

Nick: Oh, yeah. "Related, but not related."

Leah: Because my brain got there, and then this is where we're going now.

Nick: Yeah. So I like a good, like, "Oh, that makes me think of ..." "Oh, that reminds me."

Leah: And what I also like about what Nick said earlier is you're saying, "I hear you. I hear that you're saying you had a crazy work week. Yes. A lot of work stuff. Definitely hard." And then I'm moving that into this other thing.

Nick: Right.

Leah: I'm not not listening, you know? I didn't not take it in. I heard you. We're just moving.

Nick: But I think it is quite common for, you know, a lot of DC cocktail parties to be very work focused, and so trying to steer it away, I think, is a good skill to practice.

Leah: Yes.

Nick: So our next question is quote, "Is it ever okay to tell someone they're being rude? Upon meeting my husband and I for the first time, a woman exclaimed, 'You left England for her?' The subtext was that I didn't appear to be worth it. Should I have told her that she was rude?"

Leah: Yes.

Nick: [laughs] Well, I would also. This wasn't subtext. This was text.

Leah: God. That was just ...

Nick: This was ... [laughs]

Leah: Straight up text.

Nick: This was—yeah, this was just the text of this. That's wild!

Leah: That's a wild—that could have easily gone into Said To My Face.

Nick: SaidToMyFace.com. Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. I mean—what a wild—like, who—like, there's no other interpretations for this. Like, I want to give the benefit of the doubt to this person. Like, that's impossible.

Leah: And also, there's so many ways of saying—telling somebody they're rude without using the words "You're rude," that are fun. You can just do a "Wow! Wow!"

Nick: [laughs] Said exactly that way.

Leah: Yes.

Nick: We should record that. We need to sell that as a ringtone. Yeah. I would actually love to answer the phone with you saying, "Wow!"

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: [laughs] I would love that. So I don't think we want to necessarily call someone out and be like, "You were rude," but I think we can definitely convey our displeasure in a polite way. And so I had some ideas. Some of these are not good. You can vote. The first was: "First Meghan Markle, now me? Who's next?" Fun? No?

Leah: Fun!

Nick: Okay. All right. Approved. The other idea is: "Yes. Didn't you know he's a pilgrim?"

Leah: [laughs] What is it?

Nick: Okay. A little obscure, but I kind of like that. Another idea: "Yes. Our 110 voltage and huge variety of root beer brands proved to be irresistible." Kind of like that. [laughs]

Leah: These are fun.

Nick: And then the last one on my list: "USA! USA! USA!"

Leah: I think that's my favorite so far.

Nick: [laughs]

Leah: I think Nick is giving us fun, creative things.

Nick: Yeah.

Leah: About leaving England.

Nick: Yes.

Leah: I would like to stick with making this woman realize that she should keep her lips zipped with just like, a "Wow!" Which we've demonstrated. I think you could also say, "Oh, my goodness, I can't believe you let that out of your face."

Nick: Interesting. Okay. Well, I have a couple more that are more in this flavor. What do you think of: "We're quite happy with this, and are so disappointed to hear that you don't share this feeling with us."

Leah: That's very polite.

Nick: Very polite. It doesn't quite have the twist of the knife I'm looking for, though, does it? Yeah, because if you say something that's so polite, is it gonna dawn on them that they were really rude? Maybe not.

Leah: I think you could do a, "I'm sorry. Who are you?"

Nick: "I'm sorry, I think I misheard you. Could you say that again?"

Leah: Yeah, "I'm sorry. I think I misheard you. It sounded like you were insulting me."

Nick: "Please rephrase."

Leah: I like that. Just very blunt, but still polite.

Nick: Well, I think in some recent episode, you were talking about how you like when somebody does something rude to make them say it again.

Leah: I like to make them say it again just so they can catch it.

Nick: Right. So this actually could be a good occasion for that.

Leah: Yes, I do like that. "I'm sorry, I must have misheard you."

Nick: Yeah. "One more time?"

Leah: And then you could do a, "Uh huh?"

Nick: "Huh!"

Leah: "Mmm."

Nick: "Mmm. Oh, no. I actually did hear you the first time correctly. Okay."

Leah: "Wow!" And then you just sort of do a physical pivot and walk away.

Nick: But yeah, when you are thinking about your guest list for your wedding, I think we have noted this in their file.

Leah: Who says stuff like this?

Nick: Yeah, I don't know.

Leah: I mean, I would like to have a version of all the other options that we could say that are maybe not rated G, that are a little bit ...

Nick: A lot of bit.

Leah: A lot of bit.

Nick: Yeah.

Leah: I'm not saying bad words. I'm just saying, you know, mean. [laughs]

Nick: [laughs] Yeah, I think ...

Leah: That's for another show.

Nick: That's a different show. That is not this current show. Yeah. I mean, I get the idea of wanting to say something that feels satisfying. You're probably not gonna have something that's gonna feel satisfying enough for the level of rudeness that this is, and you just have to be okay with that.

Leah: I think what you can do, though, is make them uncomfortable, which is satisfying.

Nick: For sure! Yes. No, I like making them say it back, and then be like, "Oh. Oh, okay. Yeah, I thought that's what you said."

Leah: You just have to stare at their face a little longer than is appropriate.

Nick: [laughs]

Leah: And then just looking at them like you're so disappointed in the human being they've become.

Nick: Yeah. No, the look of disappointment is key. Yeah. Like, "Oh, you just don't know better."

Leah: Yeah. Yes, yes, yes.

Nick: Yeah. Yeah, that's the look. Speaking of Said To My Face, so as you all know out there, we have a new feature called SaidToMyFace.com, where if somebody says something super rude to your face, oh, we have a place to put it. SaidToMyFace.com.

Leah: Also, they could text it to you or it could be in an email. It's your metaphorical face.

Nick: Yes. Yeah, it does not have to be verbal words spoken to your face. It can be said to you in any medium, but you could definitely send it to us—SaidToMyFace.com. And so send them in. They're so wonderful. And we just got one, and it's quote, "After a particularly successful career moment, a peer of mine looked at me and said, 'It won't last.'

Leah: Ah!

Nick: [laughs] That's so rude. Oh, that's so rude.

Leah: I'm so sorry. And I relate to this so hard. I had, like, a really good thing happen and then I was, like—I turned to another comic and I was about to say a sentence and then they filled in the sentence with, "Yeah, isn't it hard after something good happens and it all just goes back to how it was and nobody even cared?" And I was like, "Oh, I wasn't going there at all."

Nick: [laughs] Yeah. "Can I just have this moment for two seconds?"

Leah: But like what Nick said in the first question, this has nothing to do with you. This has to do with them.

Nick: Yeah. No, how could this have anything to do with you? Yeah. No, this is somebody who's clearly jealous of your successful career moment and wants you to know it.

Leah: And to rain on your—this is a parade rainer.

Nick: This is a parade rainer. Yeah.

Leah: I think you can even go, "Parade rainer!"

Nick: PR.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: Yeah, get an umbrella.

Leah: Get an um—"I'm getting you an umbrella for Christmas because you're a parade rainer."

Nick: We need an etiquette poncho. I think that's what we do.

Leah: Yes! Yes!

Nick: Okay. More merchandise available, etiquette ponchos.

Leah: For all the people trying to rain on my parade.

Nick: And there's a lot of people out there. Yeah.

Leah: There really is! Which is sad. Like, if you don't get joy from other people's joy, I mean, come on!

Nick: Yeah. No, it's so rude. And also, if you don't get joy from other people's joy, that's fine, but then keep your mouth shut.

Leah: Then zip it up.

Nick: You don't need to rain. Keep that water in the cloud.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: Or however weather works.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: So if somebody has said something rude to you, SaidToMyFace.com. It's a place to put it. Delighted to have it shared with us. We will share it with the world, and it'll be very cathartic.

Leah: It's very cathartic. I had—recently somebody said something to a woman friend that was very rude. A stranger. And just the idea that I could be like, "Hey, we get so many of these that it's not personal to you. It's just these villains walking through society randomly shouting mean things at people." But it's happening to so many people that it takes the way—feeling like it's you, that you personally are being ...

Nick: Yeah. That is the beauty of SaidToMyFace.com is that so many of the ones that we've been getting are actually duplicates. Like, almost to a word it's the same type of sentiment that's being expressed in a lot of these. And it's sort of like, oh, this is going on globally, that people are saying these things. So it can't be you, and it can't be personal because it's happening everywhere.

Leah: And then that way it takes the power away from them, and then we can just turn back on the mean people and go, "You're mean! This is not me. You're mean!"

Nick: And then we put on our poncho.

Leah: And then we put on our poncho and we sashay away.

Nick: So if you have any of those, send them to us. And if you have questions or you got vents, repents, we'll take it all. You can send it to us through our website WereYouRaisedByWolves.com. Or you can leave us a voicemail or send us a text message: (265) CALL-RBW. And we'll see you next time!

Leah: Bye!

Nick: Bye!